Everyone wants peace, right? Well, not foreign policy expert Robert Kaplan. He says too much peace can be dangerous. Struggle is what builds a nation's character, and gives meaning to life. In this hour of To the Best of Our Knowledge we'll talk about war and peace. Also, the untold story of NATO's war in Kosovo.

Robert Kaplan writes for the Atlantic Monthly and is the author of many books, including "The Coming Anarchy." He tells Steve Paulson that too much peace is a dangerous thing and that the Cold War represented an ideal time of stability. He says a stable social infrastructure has to be in place before democracy can succeed and our foreign policy goal should be stability, not peace at any price.

Robert Fisk covered the was in the Balkans for London newspaper, The Independent. He tells Judith Strasser that most Western journalists simply reprinted the news dished up by NATO. While no apologist for the Serbs, Fiske deplores the brutality of NATO's bombing effort. Also, Joe Sacco is a cartoonist and creator of a comic book called "Safe Area Gorazde," which chronicles his life in the Bosnian city of Gorazde during the Serbian siege. He tells Steve Paulson that young Bosnians were desperate to have contact with the outside world, and craved lipstick and Levi's while living in bombed out husks of what had been comfortable homes.

Mark Bowden tells Jim Fleming about a disastrous incident in Somalia which changed American attitudes about sending American troops into chaotic trouble spots to serve as Peacekeepers. He tells the whole story in his book "Black Hawk Down," a finalist for the National Book Award.

Distribution dates:

• week of 06/11/2000 - hour 1