TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE Sunday 06 Dec 2009 PROMO FOR "Changing Climate Change" *Remember Kyoto? Now it's Copenhagen. The UN's current climate treaty, the Kyoto Protocol, was never ratified by the US. And now, we're in the hot seat. In this hour of To the Best of Our Knowledge, we'll talk with Gaia theorist James Lovelock and Whole Earth Catalogue founder Stewart Brand. Also, "The Yes Men Fix the World" coming to a theater near you. PROGRAM RUNDOWN:"Changing Climate Change" 0:00- 17:21 SEGMENT 1: (17:22) Stewart Brand, founder of the Whole Earth Catalogue, says it's time to get pragmatic about managing climate change. He tells Anne Strainchamps why he no longer opposes nuclear power and they discuss other aspects of his new philosophy. His new book is "Whole Earth Discipline: An Ecopragmatist Manifesto." Also, many in the environmental movement disagree with Brand. Paxus Calta is one. He's been an anti-nuclear activist for over 30 years. He gives his reasons for his position. Calta is Chair of the board of the Nuclear Information and Resource Service, an umbrella organization of some 300 grass-roots organizations. Segment One Outcue: "...PRI - Public Radio International." 17:22 - 17:51 LOCAL OPTION with music bed (:29) 23:52 - 45:06 SEGMENT 2: (21:16) James Lovelock created the Gaia Theory. His latest book is "The Vanishing Face of Gaia: A Final Warning." Lovelock tells Steve Paulson that our planet is a self-regulating system that will carry on without people and that it is too late to reverse global warming. Humanity will just have to live with the consequences, if it can. Also, novelist Margaret Atwood talks about her latest book, "The Year of the Flood," with Steve Paulson. The book posits a new religion formed after most life on Earth has been obliterated. Segment Two Outcue: "...PRI - Public Radio International." 39:07 - 39:36 LOCAL OPTION with music bed (:29) 39:37 - 53:00 SEGMENT 3: (13:23) Andy Bichlbaum and Mike Bonanno are The Yes Men. They pose as the World Trade Organization or major corporate entities to pull off pranks as political action. A collection of these actions comprise the documentary film "The Yes Men Fix the World." Jim Fleming talks with Andy Bichlbaum and we hear excerpts from the film. Segment Three Outcue: PRI Audio Logo For a copy of this hour, call 1-800-747-7444, and ask for program number 12-6-A. copyright 2009 WHA Radio and the Board of Regents of the University of Wisconsin System. All rights reserved.